Barrow Lancashire County UK Links

Places to Visit in Lancaster, Lancashire, United Kimgdom

Barrow Monument

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoad_Monument

http://www.sirjohnbarrowmonument.co.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulverston

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Lancaster Castle

Shire Hall
Castle Parade
Lancaster
Lancashire
LA1 1YJ
Tel : +44 (0)1524 64998
Fax : +44 (0)1524 847914



Website: click here

Discover one of the most important historic monuments in the North West ...

This fascinating Grade 1 listed building has dominated Lancaster for almost 1000 years and is one of the best preserved and hardest working castles in the country.

See the place where the Lancashire Witches were convicted and condemned to die. Experience the dungeons and imagine what it was like to have been imprisoned there. Visit the Crown Court where thousands of convicts were transported to Australia and then marvel at the beautiful Gillow furniture in the Grand Jury Room and the famous display of heraldry in The Shire Hall.

Lancaster Castle also has a regular programme of theatrical and musical evenings for which early booking is highly recommended. 

Facilities
Historic House, Car Park, Private Group Tours, School Tours Available, Parking within 100 metres, shop, admittance to guide dogs, limited access for disabled users, theatre event

Directions
Leave M6 at jct 33 or 34 and follow signs for Lancaster City Centre. Once in the city centre follow signs for the Castle a

Go Back to Lancashire?

More Places to Visit in Lancashire?

Places to Stay near Lancaster Castle

Grange Hotel, Grange-over-Sands, Cumbria
Lancaster House Hotel, Lancaster
The Sun Hotel, Lancaster
Knoll Country House, Lake Side
Cambridge House Hotel, Millom

Castles in Lancashire, England.

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Astley Hall, Chorley

In a picturesque corner of England, this county is surrounded by some of the most beautiful country side in the country. Cumbria and Yorkshire to the north and east and Derbyshire, Cheshire and England’s third city,Manchester, to the south. Walkers love the peace of the Lancashire dales, the Forest of Bowland’s silent hills and the deserted lanes which lead to eerie Pendle Hill, surrounded by stories and legends of the infamous Pendle witches.

Lancaster itself is a small but perfectly formed county town dominately by the Castle (owned by the Queen). Famous for much in the past, Lancaster is gaining a reputation for award winning attractions and fabulous historical festivals, enactments and promotions.

Directions from Barrow in Lancanshire to Barrow in-furness in Cumbria

Barrow-in-Furness - Piel Castle - Cumbria

http://www.visitcumbria.com/sl/pielcas.htm

Barrow Castle, Kerry County, Ireland

http://www.tigin-cottages.com/barrow_castle.htm

Barrow Castle, Bath, England

http://www.barrowcastle.co.uk/

Lancanshire County

http://www.camelotintl.com/heritage/counties/england/lancs.html

http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BARN_BB.htm

                       

BARROW BOATMAN'S SONG. Irish, Air (3/4 time). E Minor (G Major)/A Dorian. Standard tuning. One part. "Taken down by Mr. O'Leary while the man was rowing and singing" (Joyce). Joyce (Old Irish Folk Music and Songs), 1909; No. 286, pg. 136.

                       

BARROW CASTLE, THE. AKA and see "Lamont's Reel," "O'Connell in Clare," "Johnny Shooting in the Glen," "Jackson's Welcome to Cork [1]," "The Four Courts of Dublin," "The White‑haired Piper," "The Blea‑berry Blossom," "The Dandy Girl/Lass/Lasses," "Stormy Weather," "The Kerry Star," "The Green Fields to America," "The Connacht Lasses," "The Belles of Tipperary [2]," "Miss Mona(g)han(‘s Reel)."

Beth Ruyle, Craig Hullinger, Bret Hullinger

More photos at ruhu12.com

Lots more photos here

amunegypt.blogspot.com

What we Know about Mable Grace Young

Mable Grace Young Burnam

She was born in Lee County, Georgia on 7/17/24.

'Mable died in 11/30/2003 in Chamblee, Ga

She is buried in Sunnyside Cemetery in Cordele, Georgia.

Her address in Chamblee at the time she died was 3891 Captain Drive.

Her parents were Charles Oscar Young and Mable Barrow Young.

She worked for the Bell Bomber Plant in Marietta during World War II.

H. M. Patterson Funeral Home Oglethorp Hill 404 261 3510 - the obituary only lists a sister, Ethel Waters of Ellaville, Georgia and several nieces and nephews.

Could not find Aunt Ethel Waters in Ellaville, but the town only has 1600 people, and there are three Waters listed, who are likely your cousins.


Hamilton B Waters 2806 Concord Church Road 229 937 5184


Joan Waters RR1 Box 145-3 229 937 9002


Michael E Waters 229 937 5206


http://www.ellavillega.com/


Lee County is a small County in Southwest Georgia. Leesburg and Smithville are the two towns. It is 38 miles south of Ellaville, where her sister lived. It is about 85 miles southwest of Warner Robbins.

http://www.lee.ga.us/about/index.html#where

http://www.leecountylibrary.org/

http://www.mygeorgiagenealogy.com/ga_county/lee.htm

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Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The (GA) -
December 1, 2003

Deceased Name: MABLE YOUNG BURNAM
79, of Chamblee died Saturday. Funeral, 3 p.m.
Wednesday, H.M. Patterson & Son, Oglethorpe Hill.
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Mable Grace Young Burnam filed a law suit on age discrimination
http://vlex.com/vid/38404467


Mable Y. Burnam, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. Amoco Container Company, Defendant-Appellee. No. 84-8442. Non-Argument Calendar., 755 F.2d 893 (11th Cir. 1985)

Federal Circuits, 11th Cir. (March 20, 1985)

Docket number: 84-8442
Permanent Link: http://vlex.com/vid/38404467
Id. vLex: VLEX-38404467

Her attorney in 1988 Jay W. Bouldin, Jonesboro, Ga., could not find him.

Jay W. Bouldin, Jonesboro, Ga., for plaintiff-appellant.

Charles A. Edwards, Atlanta, Ga., for defendant-appellee.

Appeal from the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.

Before RONEY, ANDERSON and CLARK, Circuit Judges.

PER CURIAM:

Appellant, Mabel Y. Burnam (Burnam), appeals from the district court's dismissal of her complaint in an age discrimination action. The issue presently before this panel is the threshold question of whether this court has jurisdiction over Burnam's appeal.

Background

On January 26, 1984, appellant filed a complaint against appellee, Amoco Container Company (Amoco), alleging that she was a victim of age discrimination. On February 21, 1984, appellee filed its answer and a motion to dismiss.1 On April 5, 1984, appellee filed a supplement to its motion to dismiss. On April 12, 1984, appellant filed a response to appellee's motion to dismiss and its supplement. On April 13, 1984, the trial court entered its order dismissing appellant's complaint.

No further motions or other documents of any nature were filed by either party after the April 13 order. Nonetheless, on April 23, the district court, on its own volition, entered another order, explaining that it had not received appellant's response to appellee's motion to dismiss until after the April 13 order was entered. The April 23 order further stated that

[t]he court has now considered the plaintiff's arguments in opposition to the motion to dismiss and finds them to be without merit. The court's order of April 13, 1984, remains the order of this court. The instant order is issued as a clarification of the grounds set forth in the previous order.

On May 17, 1984, appellant filed a notice of appeal appealing "from the final judgments entered April 13, 1984 and April 23, 1984...."

Discussion

A notice of appeal must be filed with the clerk of the district court within thirty days after the date of entry of the judgment or order appealed from. Fed.R.App.P. 4(a)(1). The filing of a timely notice of appeal is a jurisdictional prerequisite. United States v. One Remington 12 Gauge Shotgun, 709 F.2d 1468, 1469 (11th Cir.1983). Therefore, in the instant case, unless the April 23 order tolled the time for filing a notice of appeal, appellant's May 17 filing was untimely and this court lacks jurisdiction. Resolution of this jurisdictional question requires us to determine what effect, if any, a district court's sua sponte reconsideration of an otherwise final judgment has on the passage of time allotted for the filing of a Notice of Appeal. 

To make this determination, we first must decide whether the district court entered its April 23 order pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 59 (as Burnam contends), or Rule 60 (as Amoco contends). Next, we must decide whether the Rules authorize the district court to enter such an order in the absence of a motion by either party.

Before examining the unusual situation presented in this case by the district court's sua sponte reconsideration of its order, it is helpful to review the more common operation of Rules 59 and 60. Ordinarily, the court considers relief under these rules pursuant to a motion by a party. The rules afford different types of relief, and the motion is characterized as either a Rule 59 or Rule 60 motion depending upon the type of relief requested. E.g., Morgan Guaranty Trust Co. v. Third Nat'l Bank of Hampden County, 545 F.2d 758, 760 (1st Cir.1976) (nomenclature does not control the legal status of a post-trial motion; motion seeking relief improperly under Rule 60(a) treated as a Rule 59(e) motion). 

Characterization of a motion as a Rule 59 or a Rule 60 motion has a critical impact upon the passage of time allotted for the filing of a Notice of Appeal. A timely and proper Rule 59 motion suspends the judgment's finality and tolls the running of the time for taking an appeal. See Williams v. Bolger, 633 F.2d 410(5th Cir.1980). A Rule 60 motion, however, does not affect the finality of a judgment or suspend its operation for purposes of appeal. See Alber v. Gant, 435 F.2d 146 (5th Cir.1970) (Rule 60(a) motion to correct a clerical error); Conerly v. Flower, 410 F.2d 941 (8th Cir.1969) (Rule 60(b) motion). Thus, our first task is to determine whether the district court's April 23 order was entered pursuant to Rule 59 or Rule 60.

Proper characterization of the April 23 order requires an analysis of exactly what the district court did. On April 13, the time for filing an answer to appellee's original motion to dismiss having long since run,2 the court dismissed appellant's complaint based solely upon appellee's "unopposed" motion to dismiss and memorandum in support thereof. Immediately thereafter, the court received appellant's memorandum in opposition to appellee's motion to dismiss, which sets forth an eight-page legal argument against dismissal of appellant's complaint. The court reviewed the memorandum, considered the merits of appellant's legal arguments, and determined that its earlier conclusion to dismiss the complaint was correct. Accordingly, the court entered another order on April 23 to that effect.

This scenario most closely resembles a district court's denial of a Rule 59(e) motion to alter or amend judgment. Appellant's memorandum argued against dismissal of her complaint. By the time the district court reviewed her memorandum, the complaint had already been dismissed. Thus, in considering appellant's arguments, the court effectively considered whether or not it should vacate the judgment of dismissal. Since a motion to vacate a judgment of dismissal and amend the complaint is generally characterized as a Rule 59(e) motion, e.g., Kelly v. Delaware River Joint Comm'n, 187 F.2d 93 (3d Cir.1951), cert. denied, 342 U.S. 812 , 72 S.Ct. 25, 96 L.Ed. 614 (1951), a district court's sua sponte consideration of such relief should also be deemed pursuant to Rule 59(e). Viewed thusly, the April 23 order would, as an order entered pursuant to Rule 59, toll the time for the filing of a notice of appeal.

Determining whether the district court acted pursuant to Rule 59 or Rule 60, however, is not the end of our inquiry. It must next be determined whether a district court may, sua sponte, consider the availability of Rule 59(e) relief. The Rules of Civil Procedure are unclear on this point. For example, Rule 60(a) authorizes the court to correct clerical mistakes and other errors on its own initiative. Likewise, Rule 59(d) states that a court may grant a new trial on its own initiative. In contrast, Rule 59(e) is silent on the power of the court to order relief on its own initiative. Arguably, such silence implies that the court lacks such power. We decline to make such an inference. As the authors of one treatise explain, "[t]he authorizations in Rules 60(a) and 59(d) for the court to act on its own motion are only declaratory examples of the general power of the court to act on its own initiative." 6A Moore's Federal Practice p 59.12. Thus, so long as the court acts within ten days after the entry of judgment, the court has the power on its own motion to consider altering or amending a judgment. Id. The district court, therefore, had the power to review appellant's memorandum and enter the April 23 order pursuant to Rule 59(e) on its own motion.

Conclusion

We conclude that the district court had the power under Rule 59(e) sua sponte to consider altering or amending the April 13 order and that the April 23 order was entered pursuant to Rule 59(e). Consequently, the time for filing a notice of appeal was tolled. The Notice of Appeal having been timely filed, this court has jurisdiction.

IT IS SO ORDERED.

1 Amoco's documents were filed the first business day of the district court following the expiration of the twenty-day answer period. Apparently because of an intervening holiday, Burnam had miscalculated the due date for the answer and requested the clerk to enter a default judgment. The clerk entered default against Amoco on February 22. Recognizing the miscalculation, the district court vacated the entry of default in its April 13 order

2 The Local Rules of the Northern District of Georgia allow ten days in which to file a response to an answer. N.D.Ga.Rule 91.2. We express no opinion as to the effect Amoco's supplemental motion filed on April 5 had on the running of this period


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Mable Young Family Locations

Map courtesy of Buddy Clan. It shows the farm of Grandfather Young, as well as Smithville just west of the farm.

Map showing Mable Young family locations. She was born in Lee County (B), and buried in Cordelle. Her daughter Serena lives in Warner Robins. Her sister and perhaps her nieces and nephews live in Ellaville.

Young Family - Deidrich Cemetery

Photo of Headstone courtesy of Buddy Clanton. John Deidrich immigrated with Great Grandfather Young.  Note the reference to Lemmersboch the Kingdom of Wurtenburg, Germany.

Serena & Beth

Keep finding things out about your family history.  The account below shows your cousins tending to the graves of your Great Grandparents Young in 2003. Also appears that your Great Grandfather served in the War Between the States. I put it on the blog.

Lee County Georgia Cemeteries - Deidrich Cemetery

Submitted by Debra Boswell Crosby http://www.genrecords.net/emailregistry/vols/00010.html#0002467 ************************************************ Copyright.  All rights reserved.

http://www.usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm 

http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/gafiles.htm

************************************************  surveyed by the Lee County Historical Society Deidrich Cemetery 100 yds. S. of where Co. Rd. 154 & Hwy 118 connect County Map - Grid A-3  Name                                                    

Born   Died  Deidrich, John  Jun 8, 1808  Dec 17, 1892 Deidrich, Susan Adaline Monk wife of John Deidrich Sep 26, 1825  Jun 27, 1901 [now marked]                    

Susan above is unmarked grave Deidrich, Ida Forrest dau of John and Susan unmarked  Apr 27, 1863  Nov 7, 1864 [now marked]  taken from the Lee County History Book by Debra Boswell with permission of the Lee County Historical Society...May 2001   

Note: The grave of Ida Forrest Deidrich was marked in April 2002 at the same time of Susan,her mother. John's grave was marked by probably his youngest dau, Annie Lee Deidrich Murphy.  

Susan Adeline Monk Deidrich Born Sept 26, 1825 Ga. Died June 27, 1901 Quitman, Ga. Married John Jan 28, 1841  in Bibb Co. Ga. Gt. Gt. Grandmother of L. B. Clanton Placed by Buddy Clanton.    

In Memory of Our Father John Deidrich Born  at Lemmersboch Kingdom of Wurtenburg Germany June 8, 1808 Died Dec 17, 1892   In 2003 the grave of John Jacob Young was marked with a Confederate Veteran's headstone

  [Ken Green - Ben Young - myself and another person]. In addition to this, I had iron crosses made and erected marking the graves of but no ID [Names] Mary Horne Jones [widow] Young, wife of John J. and the two McGrady Infants buried without a name. I had them marked in July 2004.

submitted by Buddy Clanton buddyclan@aol.com Aug 2004       

Photos of these headstones can be seen at

http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/lee/photos/tombstones/deidric1.jpg http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/lee/photos/tombstones/deidric2.jpg http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/lee/photos/tombstones/deidric3.jpg  

Young Genealogy

Württemberg, Germany, near Stuttgart, Germany

The Young Family History says they originated from

Wutenburg, Germany, which may be Württemberg, Germany

1. John Jacob Young b.in Germany 1812, m. in 1861 Mary Horne Jones

2 Martha Young b: abt 1861 Georgia

2 Charles O Young b: Feb 1864 Georgia

   + Mable Barrow Young abt 1883

3 Clarence Young abt 1903

3 Viestella/Vestelle Young (female) city, Lee, Georgia abt 1904/5

3 Theo D Young abt 1908

3 Ethel Young abt 1913 - alive in 2003? in obit of sister

+ Mr. Waters

3 Chareles Young abt 1915/16

3 Mable Grace Young Burnam b: 7/17/1924 in Lee Co, GA - d:

11/30/2003 in Chamblee, Ga

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4 Serena S Windham b: 1944

4 Beth Ruyle b: 1946

+ Roy P Burnam Jr. 10/29/1923 - 8/17/1995 in Atlanta, GA 30341

3 James Young abt 1920

2 John H Young b:abt 1866 Georgia

+ Nancy E Young city, Lee, GA abt 1874

3 Semmie L Young city, Lee, GA abt 1894

2 Louisa Wilherrine Young abt 1868 Georgia

2 Alice Young Sept 1870 Georgia

2 Jane Young abt 1872 Georgia

2 Susie Young abt 1875 Georgia

2 George Young b: abt 1879 Georgia

2 William M Young b: Sep 1879 Georgia

+ Magie Young abt 1889/91

3 Neomia Tyner or Nannie Young abt 1905/6

3 Cassie Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1908/9

3 Ben or Roy Young abt 1912

3 Clifford Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1914/15

3 Christen Young abt 1915 or

3 Clive W Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1914

3 Lillie Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1917

2 Casis Young b: Sep 1881 Georgia 

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Lee County Georgia Cemeteries - Deidrich Cemetery Submitted by Debra Boswell Crosby http://www.genrecords.net/emailregistry/vols/00010.html#0002467

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Copyright. All rights reserved.
http://www.usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm
http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/gafiles.htm

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Surveyed by the Lee County Historical Society Deidrich Cemetery 100 yds. S. of where Co. Rd. 154 & Hwy 118 connect County Map - Grid A-3 Name Born Died Deidrich, John Jun 8, 1808 Dec 17, 1892 Deidrich, Susan Adaline Monk wife of John Deidrich Sep 26, 1825 Jun 27, 1901 [now marked] 

Susan above is unmarked grave Deidrich, Ida Forrest dau of John & Susan unmarked Apr 27, 1863 Nov 7, 1864 [now marked] taken from the Lee County History Book by Debra Boswell with permission of the Lee County Historical Society...May 2001 Note: 

The grave of Ida Forrest Deidrich was marked in April 2002 at the same time of Susan, her mother. John’s grave was marked by probably his youngest dau, Annie Lee Deidrich Murphy. Susan Adeline Monk Deidrich Born Sept 26, 1825 Ga. Died June 27, 1901 Quitman, Ga. 

Married John Jan 28, 1841 in Bibb Co. Ga. Gt. Gt. Grandmother of L. B. Clanton Placed by Buddy Clanton. In Memory of Our Father John Deidrich Born at Lemmersboch Kingdom of Wurtenburg Germany June 8, 1808 Died Dec 17, 1892 

In 2003 the grave of John Jacob Young was marked with a Confederate Veteran's headstone [Ken Green-Ben Young- myself and another person]. In addition to this, I had iron crosses made and erected marking the graves of but no ID [Names] Mary Horne Jones [widow] Young, wife of John J. and the two McGrady Infants buried without a name. I had them marked in July 2004. 

submitted by Buddy Clanton buddyclan@aol.com Aug 2004 Photos of these headstones can be seen at

http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/lee/photos/tombstones/deidric1.jpg 

http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/lee/photos/tombstones/deidric2.jpg 

http://www.usgwarchives.net/ga/lee/photos/tombstones/deidric3.jpg

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Hi everyone,

I did a bit of checking and while I plan to continue a bit more today

I thought I would get this off to you.

Here's what we do know from the census records:

In 1850 J J Young age 35 was unmarried and living in Lee county, Dist 50, GA

In 1860 J J Young 49 was married to Louisa J. 28 and still living in Lee county GA

John Dedrick living next door (previous page) with wife Susan and possible mother in law Nancy Gray

In 1861 Victoria Jones is born to Mary and Mr Jones.

In 1870 John J Young, 60, born in Wurt, was married to Louisa 39 listed with children Martha 9, Charles 7, John H 4, and Wilherrine 2 (illegible). Friend John Diedrick 61 is living next door with wife Susan H (Gray???) Nancy Gray 86 of GA living with them.

In 1880 J.J. Young 68, is married to Mary 40, born in GA the children are listed as Martha 18, Charlie 16, John 14, Louisa 12, Alice 10, Jane 8, Susie 5, and George 5/12 born Sept

In 1900 Mary A Young is listed as either 59 or 60 born June 1840 she is a widow. She had 5 children, 3 are living. Living with her are W. M. son born Sept 1879, Casie, daughter born Sept 1881, and Alice daughter born Sept 1870 - it says she is 30, but the census was taken in June 1900.

In 1900 your Charles O Young born Feb 1864 was living as a border in the household of D. Clarence Jones born Aug 1857. when I say "married to" we assume this is the case in 1860 and 1870 because it gives no relationships. Same thing with the children, we assume these were their children.

So what does this tell us. Since John Jacob Young and his friend John Deddrick arrived here together, and we find John J Young living next door to John Dedrick/Diedrick in 1860 and 1870, I think we can safely assume we found your John Jacob Young in the census. Both times he was married to Louisa. Since Victoria Jones, born 1861, is listed as the stepdaughter of JJ Young, who is married to Mary in 1880, we know that Mary was the mother of Victoria in 1861. 

The same children listed for John and Louisa are listed with John and Mary (with some additions following the 1870 census). In 1900 we find Mary, now a widow, living with 3 children: W. M. 20 son born Sept 1879, Casie 18, daughter born Sept 1881, and Allice 30, daughter born Sept 1870 .

While it says each was her child, we cannot always assume this is true since we don't know who gave the information. Alice, listed as her daughter, may have been her stepdaughter. Don't know. In 1880 we have Allice 10, Jane 8, Susie 5 and George 5/12 as the children born since the 1870 census. The 1900 census tells us that Mary had 5 children and 3 of them are still living.

Alice Sept 1870

Jane 1872

Susie 1875

George Sept 1879

W M Sept 1879

Casie Sept 1881

We have 6 names and there may have been others that died between census records. The 1890 census burned so we have a 20 year gap. I don't know if George and W M are the same person. Census dates tend to not be terribly accurate. The 1900 census, which you'd think would be the most accurate since it gives the actual month for everyone, tends to be one of the worst.

At any rate, it doesn't look like your Charles O Young was the son of Mary Jones. I have not yet checked to see about the alleged James J Young. I also want to look into the possibility that Louisa was a sister of Susan, the wife of John Dedrick. It's a long shot, but friends and brothers often marry sisters. It would be nice if we could find a marriage record for either Louisa or Mary.

You might wonder why Mable thought Mary was the mother. Here's what I think happened. After Louisa died John married Mary and they lived as one large family. In 1900 it appears that Charles went to live with the Jones family - don't know exactly how they are related to Mary.

D. Clarence Jones could be her nephew or her son. Or it could even just be a coincidence. I'm guessing he's related to Mary. In 1900, Mary is living next door to John Young, Charles' brother. So Mary was a big influence. Over time, Louisa is not mentioned. Mary is called mother and poor Louisa slips from the family history. We'll continue to look for documents to prove or disprove this.

I've attached the 1860 census of John Dedrick. Also, I've enlarged the birthplace line for both Johns so you can possibly make out their birthplace in Germany.

That's all for now.

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Württemberg, Germany, near Stuttgart, Germany

The Young Family History says they originated from

Wutenburg, Germany, which may be Württemberg, Germany