9/13/08

Young Genealogy




Württemberg, Germany, near Stuttgart, Germany





The Young Family History says they originated from

Wutenburg, Germany, which may be Württemberg, Germany


1. John Jacob Young b.in Germany 1812, m. in 1861 Mary Horne Jones

2 Martha Young b: abt 1861 Georgia
2 Charles O Young b: Feb 1864 Georgia
   + Mable Barrow Young abt 1883
3 Clarence Young abt 1903
3 Viestella/Vestelle Young (female) city, Lee, Georgia abt 1904/5
3 Theo D Young abt 1908
3 Ethel Young abt 1913 - alive in 2003? in obit of sister
+ Mr. Waters
3 Chareles Young abt 1915/16
3 Mable Grace Young Burnam b: 7/17/1924 in Lee Co, GA - d:
11/30/2003 in Chamblee, Ga
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4 Serena S Windham b: 1944
4 Beth Ruyle b: 1946
+ Roy P Burnam Jr. 10/29/1923 - 8/17/1995 in Atlanta, GA 30341
3 James Young abt 1920
2 John H Young b:abt 1866 Georgia
+ Nancy E Young city, Lee, GA abt 1874
3 Semmie L Young city, Lee, GA abt 1894
2 Louisa Wilherrine Young abt 1868 Georgia
2 Alice Young Sept 1870 Georgia
2 Jane Young abt 1872 Georgia
2 Susie Young abt 1875 Georgia
2 George Young b: abt 1879 Georgia
2 William M Young b: Sep 1879 Georgia
+ Magie Young abt 1889/91
3 Neomia Tyner or Nannie Young abt 1905/6
3 Cassie Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1908/9
3 Ben or Roy Young abt 1912
3 Clifford Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1914/15
3 Christen Young abt 1915 or
3 Clive W Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1914
3 Lillie Young city, Sumter, Georgia abt 1917
2 Casis Young b: Sep 1881 Georgia 
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Lee County Georgia Cemeteries - Deidrich Cemetery Submitted by Debra Boswell Crosby http://www.genrecords.net/emailregistry/vols/00010.html#0002467

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Surveyed by the Lee County Historical Society Deidrich Cemetery 100 yds. S. of where Co. Rd. 154 & Hwy 118 connect County Map - Grid A-3 Name Born Died Deidrich, John Jun 8, 1808 Dec 17, 1892 Deidrich, Susan Adaline Monk wife of John Deidrich Sep 26, 1825 Jun 27, 1901 [now marked] 

Susan above is unmarked grave Deidrich, Ida Forrest dau of John & Susan unmarked Apr 27, 1863 Nov 7, 1864 [now marked] taken from the Lee County History Book by Debra Boswell with permission of the Lee County Historical Society...May 2001 Note: 

The grave of Ida Forrest Deidrich was marked in April 2002 at the same time of Susan, her mother. John’s grave was marked by probably his youngest dau, Annie Lee Deidrich Murphy. Susan Adeline Monk Deidrich Born Sept 26, 1825 Ga. Died June 27, 1901 Quitman, Ga. 

Married John Jan 28, 1841 in Bibb Co. Ga. Gt. Gt. Grandmother of L. B. Clanton Placed by Buddy Clanton. In Memory of Our Father John Deidrich Born at Lemmersboch Kingdom of Wurtenburg Germany June 8, 1808 Died Dec 17, 1892 

In 2003 the grave of John Jacob Young was marked with a Confederate Veteran's headstone [Ken Green-Ben Young- myself and another person]. In addition to this, I had iron crosses made and erected marking the graves of but no ID [Names] Mary Horne Jones [widow] Young, wife of John J. and the two McGrady Infants buried without a name. I had them marked in July 2004. 

submitted by Buddy Clanton buddyclan@aol.com Aug 2004 Photos of these headstones can be seen at






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Hi everyone,

I did a bit of checking and while I plan to continue a bit more today

I thought I would get this off to you.

Here's what we do know from the census records:

In 1850 J J Young age 35 was unmarried and living in Lee county, Dist 50, GA

In 1860 J J Young 49 was married to Louisa J. 28 and still living in Lee county GA

John Dedrick living next door (previous page) with wife Susan and possible mother in law Nancy Gray

In 1861 Victoria Jones is born to Mary and Mr Jones.

In 1870 John J Young, 60, born in Wurt, was married to Louisa 39 listed with children Martha 9, Charles 7, John H 4, and Wilherrine 2 (illegible). Friend John Diedrick 61 is living next door with wife Susan H (Gray???) Nancy Gray 86 of GA living with them.

In 1880 J.J. Young 68, is married to Mary 40, born in GA the children are listed as Martha 18, Charlie 16, John 14, Louisa 12, Alice 10, Jane 8, Susie 5, and George 5/12 born Sept

In 1900 Mary A Young is listed as either 59 or 60 born June 1840 she is a widow. She had 5 children, 3 are living. Living with her are W. M. son born Sept 1879, Casie, daughter born Sept 1881, and Alice daughter born Sept 1870 - it says she is 30, but the census was taken in June 1900.

In 1900 your Charles O Young born Feb 1864 was living as a border in the household of D. Clarence Jones born Aug 1857. when I say "married to" we assume this is the case in 1860 and 1870 because it gives no relationships. Same thing with the children, we assume these were their children.

So what does this tell us. Since John Jacob Young and his friend John Deddrick arrived here together, and we find John J Young living next door to John Dedrick/Diedrick in 1860 and 1870, I think we can safely assume we found your John Jacob Young in the census. Both times he was married to Louisa. Since Victoria Jones, born 1861, is listed as the stepdaughter of JJ Young, who is married to Mary in 1880, we know that Mary was the mother of Victoria in 1861. 

The same children listed for John and Louisa are listed with John and Mary (with some additions following the 1870 census). In 1900 we find Mary, now a widow, living with 3 children: W. M. 20 son born Sept 1879, Casie 18, daughter born Sept 1881, and Allice 30, daughter born Sept 1870 .

While it says each was her child, we cannot always assume this is true since we don't know who gave the information. Alice, listed as her daughter, may have been her stepdaughter. Don't know. In 1880 we have Allice 10, Jane 8, Susie 5 and George 5/12 as the children born since the 1870 census. The 1900 census tells us that Mary had 5 children and 3 of them are still living.

Alice Sept 1870

Jane 1872

Susie 1875

George Sept 1879

W M Sept 1879

Casie Sept 1881

We have 6 names and there may have been others that died between census records. The 1890 census burned so we have a 20 year gap. I don't know if George and W M are the same person. Census dates tend to not be terribly accurate. The 1900 census, which you'd think would be the most accurate since it gives the actual month for everyone, tends to be one of the worst.

At any rate, it doesn't look like your Charles O Young was the son of Mary Jones. I have not yet checked to see about the alleged James J Young. I also want to look into the possibility that Louisa was a sister of Susan, the wife of John Dedrick. It's a long shot, but friends and brothers often marry sisters. It would be nice if we could find a marriage record for either Louisa or Mary.

You might wonder why Mable thought Mary was the mother. Here's what I think happened. After Louisa died John married Mary and they lived as one large family. In 1900 it appears that Charles went to live with the Jones family - don't know exactly how they are related to Mary.

D. Clarence Jones could be her nephew or her son. Or it could even just be a coincidence. I'm guessing he's related to Mary. In 1900, Mary is living next door to John Young, Charles' brother. So Mary was a big influence. Over time, Louisa is not mentioned. Mary is called mother and poor Louisa slips from the family history. We'll continue to look for documents to prove or disprove this.

I've attached the 1860 census of John Dedrick. Also, I've enlarged the birthplace line for both Johns so you can possibly make out their birthplace in Germany.

That's all for now.



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Württemberg, Germany, near Stuttgart, Germany








The Young Family History says they originated from


Wutenburg, Germany, which may be Württemberg, Germany

Barrow, Lancashire, England - Links & Maps

Location of our Barrow Ancestors in England 

The dark blue area near the top left part of the 
map is Lancashire where our Barrow's originated.










Beth and Craig Visited the Barrow Family Sites in England. 


Info at:

barrowlancasteruk.blogspot.com


LDS Records http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Show Thomas Barrow born about 1602

Married:
Agnes Robinson
Of, Cartmel, Lancashire, England

on 03 FEB 1624

The four maps below show Cartmel








Barrow Surname Origin


Local
A circular earthen mound, marking the place of interment of some noted person; also a place of defense. The name of a river in Ireland.

Source: An Etymological Dictionary of Family and Christian Names With an Essay on their Derivation and Import; Arthur,

William, M.A.; New York, NY: Sheldon, Blake, Bleeker &; CO., 1857.

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Name History and Origin for Barrow


Last Name
Barrow


  1. habitational name from any of the numerous places named with Old English bearo, bearu ‘grove’ (dative bear(o)we, bearuwe), for example in Cheshire, Derbyshire, Gloucestershire, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire, Shropshire, Suffolk, and Somerset, or a topographic name with the same meaning.

  2. topographic name for someone who lived by an ancient burial mound, Middle English berwe, barwe, or a habitational name from a place named with this word (Old English beorg, dative beorge), of which there is one near Leicester and another in Somerset.


  3. habitational name from Barrow in Furness, Cumbria, which is named with an unattested Celtic word, barr, here meaning ‘promontory’, + Old Norse ey ‘island’.
Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-508137-4

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Surname: A'barrow



This rare and interesting name is of Medieval English origin and was claimed in earlier research to be a dialectal variant of the locational name 'Harborough', translating as 'the hill where oats were grown'. This may be so as early recordings are intermixed and overlap between Aborrow, Aburrow and Harborowe as examples. However we are also inclined to believe that the name in some instances may also derive from one of the many places called 'Barrow' in England, or it may have described one who lived at an ancient barrow. 

The list of potential places includes Great Barrow in Cheshire, Barrow upon Trent, recorded as Baruue' in the 1086 Domesday Book, but our selection would be Barrow upon Humber, recorded in 730 a.d by the Venerable Bede as 'Aet Bearewe' (at the barrow). These names have the same meaning of 'a wood or grove', not a burial spot, although apparently Barrow in Leicestershire recorded as 'Berc' in 1206, does mean the 'mound'. 

The surname would seem to have developed during the late medieval period, when many tenants lost their common grazing rights, and were then forced to seek work elsewhere. They took or were given, as easy identification, the name of their former home, or an approximation of the spelling. In this case early examples include Margaret Aborowe who married Will Thomas at St Margarets, Westminster, on May 13th 1542, whilst in 1649, William A'Barrow married Mary Hunt on July 2nd 1649 at Knightsbridge, during the 'reign' of Oliver Cromwell and the Commonwealth. 

The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Adam Hareborogh, which was dated 1273, recorded in the rolls known as 'Kirby's Quest', Somerset, during the reign of King Edward 1st, known as 'The hammer of the Scots', 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.




http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/barrow-family-crest.htm






Smithville, Georgia







Lee County, Georgia, Home of Young and Barrow Families





Barrow, Lancashire, England





Lancashire, England - Ancestral Home of Barrow


116 Main Street Smithville, GA 31787-0146
United States




























































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Map of Library Location

Definitions of barrow on the Web:


CountyLee
Phone:229-846-6625


Not sure yet if this is our Moses Barrow Revolutionary War Soldier

http://www.footnote.com/document.php?doc=10988205&p=freeannual&kbid=1070&xid=214&sub=RevPensions2


Census Documents are listed on the page below:





http://genforum.com/ga/lee/

http://ourgeorgiahistory.com/ogh/Lee_County,_Georgia

http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/Lee_County%2C_Georgia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithville%2C_Georgia

http://www.kindredtrails.com/GA_Lee.html




http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofoldcher00gregrich/historyofoldcher00gregrich_djvu.txt 

http://dbpedia.org/page/10th_North_Carolina_Regiment 

http://en.allexperts.com/e/0/10th_north_carolina_regiment.htm





http://www.barrow-family.org/membership.html

http://barrow-family.org/

http://www.genealogylinks.net/usa/georgia/lee.htm

Wills

Young Testator: John J. Young — Bk. A pg. 148 Executor: Charlie A. Young, John H. Young, sons Date: 10-19-1889 Witnesses: G.W. Warwick - C.A. Rhodes - R .P. Salter Info on Capt Bacot – Revolutionary War – Moses Barrow unit



Messaage From Christy




From: Christy Tucker
Date: Wed, Sep 10, 2008
Subject: My mother, 
Serena
To: Beth Ruyle
Cc: 
Serena Windham


Dear Beth (or shall I say Aunt Beth),

I was so excited to hear the news yesterday from my mom.  I thought she was crazy when she emailed me the subject "my sister" because she didn't have a sister.  Boy was I in for a shock!!  I am looking forward to meeting you soon.  Mom said you were coming to Atlanta in October and I would love to meet with you then.  I heard that you went to a great school for your Master's Degree!!!  I have yet to leave Athens after attending school here.  I hope you have fond memories of the town as well.  

It has been so interesting to look at your pictures on your blog.  I hope to be as well traveled as you one day.

I wanted to take a minute to tell you about your sister, my mom.  She is a wonderful, slightly scatter-brained woman with a heart of gold.  She never meets a stranger wherever she goes.  She is friendly and outgoing.   She treats friends like family and is loyal to them and there for them in times of need.  She was and is a wonderful mom to me and my brother.  She guided us as we grew up and taught us how to make decisions wisely.  

She prepared us for life (even if we didn't always listen).  She stores value in relationships with people and not in possessions.  Having said that, she doesn't hesitate from buying good quality items. 

Just some general things that she might not think to tell you...she likes her food unbearably hot (temperature), enjoys spaghetti at my house because Casey doesn't like it at home, loves a good margarita and likes a bad one, too.  She doesn't like to cook, although she will.  In the process she will make every dish in the kitchen dirty, but she will gladly clean up your kitchen if you cook dinner.  

She is a fantastic grandmother.  (She goes by Rennie to my daughter, Olivia.)  She loves to read mystery/spy/investigation type books and watch sports on TV.  She enjoys coming with me to Ga football games and likes basketball, too.  She has made an art of relaxing.  She has a beautiful yard and a passion for day lillies.  I love her very much and hope you will, too!

I am attaching a couple of pictures that I could easily get to.  They are of Mom (Serena), me (Christy), and my daughter (Olivia).  These were taken last June.  They were my belated Mother's day gift to Mom.  There were supposed to be some pictures of just Mom and Olivia, but the little one wasn't cooperating. 

I am looking forward to getting to know you and your family.  Life is a great adventure and what an interesting turn this has taken!  Please send my regards to your daughter, Leigh Ann, your husband, Craig, and son.

Fondly,

Christy Tucker

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It is fascinating to compare the two sisters, who never knew each other.  Like Serena, Beth is a wonderful woman, also with a heart of gold. Beth also never meets a stranger wherever she goes, and is friendly and outgoing.  

She also treats friends like family and is loyal to them and there for them in times of need.  She was and is a wonderful mom to Leigh Ann and Bret. 

Beth likes her food unbearably hot (spicy, not temperature), and also loves a good margarita and likes a bad one, too.  She also doesn't like to cook, although she has on occasion.  She also makes every dish in the kitchen dirty. Beth also loves to read mystery/spy/investigation type books and romances and watch sports on TV (She loves the Georgia Dawgs, also the Florida Gators, the Atlanta Falcoms, and Chicago Bears).  She enjoyed going to Georgia football games when she lived in Georgia. She liked basketball when the Chicago Bulls were winning. 

Beth loves flowers and yard work, but has seldom had time to do much of it.  We also love her the most.


Craig Hullinger







3/27/08

First Contacts With The Cousins

Contact Info - Two cousins found to date Mary Bagwell and Bill Richardson

"Mary Bagwell" mybagwell@gmail.com;  http://serenabeth.blogspot.com/ Daughter of Clarence young, Niece of Mable's who handled Mable's estate. We are trying to decide where and when to meet this week-end. I will call and send more when I find out any additional information. Her phone no. is 404-237-6162.
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William L. Richardson Jr. 1 404 636-0539. The address is 1599 Council Bluff Dr. N.E. Atlanta GA 30345 I am excited but very nervous about making contact. Bill Richardson a Marine vet of Iwo Jima, great guy.

Vestella was the oldest sister and married Luther Richardson.They had three children, Bill, Carolyn and Charlotte. Bill and Mable were only about 2 weeks apart in age. Carolyn lives in Birmingham and she may be the one who could tell you the most about Mable. Charlotte passed away in 2004 almost a year after Mable.

Craig,I just received your e-mail and am excited we finally found Aunt Ethel. I bet she is in a nursing home in Ellaville. I will let my friend Lynn know and she can find out from her contacts in Ellaville. As soon as I get more information Lynn and I will probably go to Ellaville to see her even if she is not able to tell us anything. ( Lynn's parents are buried in Lee county), and she often goes to their grave.

Since we now know that the Richardson's are related some how would you call today and see what you can find out.
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"Mary Bagwell" mybagwell@gmail.com

Thank you for sending the blog. I looked at the first picture but will check the rest out and send the link on to my sisters. I definitely see a resemblance in both of you. Beth looks a great deal like Mable and I believe you favor Ethel and Vestella a little more.

I am about 12 miles north of downtown Atlanta. Traffic will be much lighter on Saturday so that would probably be the best day but I can take Marta downtown if that works best for you.
Mable was one of nine children but two of them, Johnny and Mary, died when they were small and one brother Theo was drowned when he was a young man. He may have been working on the Lake Okeechobee dam when it broke and killed a number of people but I do not know this for a fact.


Vestella was the oldest sister and married Luther Richardson.They had three children, Bill, Carolyn and Charlotte. Bill and Mable were only about 2 weeks apart in age. Carolyn lives in Birmingham and she may be the one who could tell you the most about Mable. Charlotte passed away in 2004 almost a year after Mable.
Clarence was the oldest son and her married Mildred Murray from Americus. I am the oldest of five daughters. My sisters are Grace, Dorothy, 
Carol and Helen.

Charles was the next brother and he moved to Little Rock after serving in World War II. His wife was named Jean and they had a son Robert and a daughter Debra. Charles died of lung cancer around 1960 and Jean remarried so we have not had much contact with them but Debra and I do correspond sometimes.

Ethel married Ralph Walters and lived in Ellaville but they had no children.

James the youngest brother was killed in action on Normandy beach in World War II.

This is a very short summary of the family but I hope it gives you an idea. I will find more pictures for you. I have one of Mable when she was probably in her twenties and will send it as soon as I locate it.

I hope the attachments come through this time.
Mary Bagwell


On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Serena Windham serenawin@hotmail.com wrote:

Mary, I enjoyed talking with you last night. The pictures of Mable did not come through on the internet. There is no attachment How far from the mart are you? My daughter and I will be there Friday and Sat. and I planned to drive home Sat. 

She will be driving back to Athens on Sat. I am not too good at navigating the Atlanta traffic and wanted to leave so I could get home before dark on Sat. I will look at the map and talk to her and then we can decide. 

I know all of this must be quite a shock to you, but I am so excited to be able to meet you and find relatives. I know Mable was your aunt, but whose child are you and whose child is Bill Richardson. I would love to meet all of you. It has been wonderful finding Beth, because I always wanted a sister. I know Mable would have been proud of us. Serena I will send you a blog (put out by Craig, Beth,s husband)


Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 

Fm: mybagwell@gmail.com

To: serenawin@hotmail.com

Subject: Pictures of Mable
Good Morning Serena,

It was a pleasure to speak with you last night. I am sorry if I did not make a lot of sense. I was rather surprised.

I am attaching a few pictures for you. The recent picture was made in 1997. The group picture is Mable in the bonnet, her father, Bill Richardson who is very close to the same age as Mable and her mother standing. The other two are her mother, our grandmother, one was made in the 50's when she was probably in her early sixties or late fifties and the other when she was young. I have others but will have to look for them. I also have a family history that Mable compiled I will give you a copy of that.

If you had rather come to my house than meet downtown that would be fine too. I thought it might be easier for you to meet but we can work that out. My address is 2958 Redding Rd. Atlanta 30319 and I am just off Peachtree Rd. I will talk to my sisters and see if they have any more information

Mary

Mary Bagwell, niece of Mable Young who handled Mable's estate. Her phone no. is 404-237-6162.

I am attaching a few pictures for you. The recent picture was made in 1997. The group picture is Mable in the bonnet,her father, Bill Richardson who is very close to the same age as Mable and her mother standing. The other two are her mother, our grandmother, one was made in the 50's when she was probably in her early sixties or late fifties and the other when she was young. I have others but will have to look for them. I also have a family history that Mable compiled I will give you a copy of that.If you had rather come to my house than meet downtown that would be fine too. I thought it might be easier for you to meet but we can work that out. My address is 2958 Redding Rd. Atlanta 30319 and I am just off Peachtree Rd. I will talk to my sisters and see if they have any more information




Mary
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Serena Elaine Young Windham 9-26-44

Derek Ned Watson 11-27-72 son of Serena


Christy Elaine Watson Tucker 11-18-75 daughter 
of Serena

Olivia Grace Tucker 8-11-06 Daughter of Christy

Elizabeth Young Ruyle Hullinger 10-26-46 m Richard Ruyle 1-68 d 3-70, m Craig Hullinger 10-24-85

daughter Leigh Ann Ruyle 8-27-68

Sisters Serena and Beth

Sisters Beth and Serena Serena Young Windham and Beth Young Smith Ruyle Hullinger were adopted in Georgia. We knew nothin...